{"id":22751,"date":"2021-11-09T22:39:26","date_gmt":"2021-11-09T22:39:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/?p=22751"},"modified":"2021-11-09T22:39:26","modified_gmt":"2021-11-09T22:39:26","slug":"if-the-buyer-or-seller-passes-away-before-returning-the-item-payment-in-a-bay-fasid-what-happens","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/if-the-buyer-or-seller-passes-away-before-returning-the-item-payment-in-a-bay-fasid-what-happens\/","title":{"rendered":"If the Buyer or Seller Passes Away Before Returning the Item\/Payment in a Bay\u2019 Fasid What Happens?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Fatwa ID: 05544<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Answered by: Mufti Belaal Ahmed\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><u>Question<\/u><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">If the buyer or seller passes away before returning the item\/payment in a bay&#8217; fasid what happens? Does it pass on to their inheritors with a duty to return etc or does ownership automatically go back? Has anyone come across ibarat on this?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><u>In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful<\/u><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong><u>Answer:<\/u><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">In regards to the question asked generally the fuqaha have mentioned in a bay fasid if the transaction goes through and the people are happy and content, bay is valid even though it&#8217;s wrong, however in bay batil it is not valid at all and items are to be returned. Now coming to bay fasid if the items are not returned then they do become the possession of the one who buys them and the money does become the possession of the one who takes them, for example, if I say you can have this for \u00a38 to \u00a310 without fixing a price this has now come to a transaction where the price is not fixed so I just choose an amount and give that to you and continue, so really the bay was t conveyed in the correct way, however after the items have been exchanged in the bay fasid the items become the property of the one who bought them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u0644\u064e\u0645\u0652 \u064a\u064e\u0630\u0652\u0643\u064f\u0631\u0652 \u0645\u0627 \u0625\u0630\u0627 \u0645\u0627\u062a\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u064a \u0641\u0627\u0633\u0650\u062f\u064b\u0627: \u0648\u0641\u0650\u064a \u0627\u0644\u062e\u064f\u0644\u0627\u0635\u064e\u0629\u0650 \u0648\u0627\u0644\u0628\u064e\u0632\u0651\u0627\u0632\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064e\u0629\u0650: \u0648\u0644\u064e\u0648\u0652 \u0645\u0627\u062a\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u064a \u0641\u0627\u0644\u0628\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0639\u064f \u0623\u062d\u064e\u0642\u0651\u064f \u0645\u0650\u0646 \u0633\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0631\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u063a\u064f\u0631\u064e\u0645\u0627\u0621\u0650 \u0628\u0650\u0645\u0627\u0644\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064e\u062a\u0650\u0647\u0650\u060c \u0641\u064e\u0625\u0646\u0652 \u0632\u0627\u062f\u064e \u0634\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0621\u064c \u0641\u064e\u0647\u064f\u0648\u064e \u0644\u0650\u0644\u0652\u063a\u064f\u0631\u064e\u0645\u0627\u0621\u0650. \u0627\u0647\u0640 \u0648\u0645\u064e\u0639\u0652\u0646\u0627\u0647\u064f \u0623\u0646\u0651\u064e\u0647\u064f \u0644\u064e\u0648\u0652 \u0627\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0649 \u0639\u064e\u0628\u0652\u062f\u064b\u0627 \u0641\u0627\u0633\u0650\u062f\u064b\u0627 \u0648\u062a\u064e\u0642\u0627\u0628\u064e\u0636\u0627 \u062b\u064f\u0645\u0651\u064e \u0645\u0627\u062a\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u064a \u0648\u0639\u064e\u0644\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0647\u0650 \u062f\u064f\u064a\u064f\u0648\u0646\u064c \u0648\u0641\u064e\u0633\u064e\u062e\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0628\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0639\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0628\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0639\u064e \u0645\u064e\u0639\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0648\u064e\u0631\u064e\u062b\u064e\u0629\u0650 \u0641\u0627\u0644\u0628\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0639\u064f \u0623\u062d\u064e\u0642\u0651\u064f \u0628\u0650\u0645\u0627\u0644\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064e\u0629\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u064e\u0628\u0652\u062f\u0650 \u0648\u0647\u0650\u064a\u064e \u0645\u0627 \u0642\u064e\u0628\u064e\u0636\u064e\u0647\u064f \u0645\u0650\u0646 \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u064a \u062d\u064e\u062a\u0651\u0649 \u064a\u064e\u0633\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u062f\u0651\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0639\u064e\u0628\u0652\u062f\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064e\u0628\u0650\u064a\u0639\u064e\u060c \u0643\u064e\u0645\u0627 \u0644\u064e\u0648\u0652 \u0645\u0627\u062a\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0628\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0639\u064f \u0641\u064e\u0625\u0646\u0652 \u0643\u0627\u0646\u064e\u062a\u0652 \u0642\u0650\u064a\u0645\u064e\u0629\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0639\u064e\u0628\u0652\u062f\u0650 \u0623\u0643\u0652\u062b\u064e\u0631\u064e \u0645\u0650\u0645\u0651\u0627 \u0642\u064e\u0628\u064e\u0636\u064e \u0641\u0627\u0644\u0632\u0651\u0627\u0626\u0650\u062f\u064f \u0644\u0650\u0644\u0652\u063a\u064f\u0631\u064e\u0645\u0627\u0621\u0650\u060c \u0647\u064e\u0630\u0627 \u0645\u0627 \u0638\u064e\u0647\u064e\u0631\u064e \u0644\u0650\u064a \u0641\u064e\u062a\u064e\u0623\u0645\u0651\u064e\u0644\u0652\u0647\u064f.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u0631\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0645\u062d\u062a\u0627\u0631 \u0665\/\u0669\u0661<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">(\u0641\u064e\u0625\u0646\u0652 \u0645\u0627\u062a\u064e) \u0623\u062d\u064e\u062f\u064f\u0647\u064f\u0645\u0627 \u0623\u0648\u0652 \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0624\u0652\u062c\u0650\u0631\u064f \u0623\u0648\u0652 \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0633\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0642\u0652\u0631\u0650\u0636\u064f \u0623\u0648\u0652 \u0627\u0644\u0631\u0651\u0627\u0647\u0650\u0646\u064f \u0641\u0627\u0633\u0650\u062f\u064b\u0627 \u0639\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0646\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064c \u0648\u0632\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0644\u064e\u0639\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064c \u0628\u064e\u0639\u0652\u062f\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0641\u064e\u0633\u0652\u062e\u0650 (\u0641\u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u064a) \u0648\u0646\u064e\u062d\u0652\u0648\u064f\u0647\u064f (\u0623\u062d\u064e\u0642\u0651\u064f \u0628\u0650\u0647\u0650) \u0645\u0650\u0646 \u0633\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0631\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u063a\u064f\u0631\u064e\u0645\u0627\u0621\u0650 \u0628\u064e\u0644\u0652 \u0642\u064e\u0628\u0652\u0644\u064e \u062a\u064e\u062c\u0652\u0647\u0650\u064a\u0632\u0650\u0647\u0650 \u0641\u064e\u0644\u064e\u0647\u064f \u062d\u064e\u0642\u0651\u064f \u062d\u064e\u0628\u0652\u0633\u0650\u0647\u0650 \u062d\u064e\u062a\u0651\u0649 \u064a\u064e\u0623\u0652\u062e\u064f\u0630\u064e \u0645\u0627\u0644\u064e\u0647\u064f (\u0641\u064e\u064a\u064e\u0623\u0652\u062e\u064f\u0630\u064f) \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064f\u0634\u0652\u062a\u064e\u0631\u0650\u064a (\u062f\u064e\u0631\u0627\u0647\u0650\u0645\u064e \u0627\u0644\u062b\u0651\u064e\u0645\u064e\u0646\u0650 \u0628\u0650\u0639\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0646\u0650\u0647\u0627 \u0644\u064e\u0648\u0652 \u0642\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0645\u064e\u0629\u064b\u060c \u0648\u0645\u0650\u062b\u0652\u0644\u064e\u0647\u0627 \u0644\u064e\u0648\u0652 \u0647\u0627\u0644\u0650\u0643\u064e\u0629\u064b) \u0628\u0650\u0646\u0627\u0621\u064b \u0639\u064e\u0644\u0649 \u062a\u064e\u0639\u064e\u064a\u0651\u064f\u0646\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u062f\u0651\u064e\u0631\u0627\u0647\u0650\u0645\u0650 \u0641\u0650\u064a \u0627\u0644\u0628\u064e\u064a\u0652\u0639\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u0641\u0627\u0633\u0650\u062f\u0650 \u0648\u0647\u064f\u0648\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0623\u0635\u064e\u062d\u0651\u064f (\u0648) \u0625\u0646\u0651\u0645\u0627 (\u0637\u0627\u0628\u064e \u0644\u0650\u0644\u0652\u0628\u0627\u0626\u0650\u0639\u0650 \u0645\u0627 \u0631\u064e\u0628\u0650\u062d\u064e) \u0641\u0650\u064a \u0627\u0644\u062b\u0651\u064e\u0645\u064e\u0646\u0650<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u0627\u0644\u062f\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0645\u062e\u062a\u0627\u0631<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">The following ruling above applies if the condition of possession in bay fasid is not found, so what that means if there is possession (qabz), and the seller is happy for qabz (possession) and both buyer and seller are happy the transaction is complete. However, if there is no qabz and the buyer is not happy then he is more entitled than the other person to who the seller is owing money.<a href=\"#_edn1\" name=\"_ednref1\">[i]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Only Allah knows best<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Written by Mufti Belaal Ahmed\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Checked and approved by Mufti Mohammed Tosir Miah<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Darul Ifta Birmingham<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"#_ednref1\" name=\"_edn1\">[i]<\/a> Raddul Muhtar vol 5 pg 91<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fatwa ID: 05544 &nbsp; Answered by: Mufti Belaal Ahmed\u00a0 &nbsp; Question &nbsp; If the buyer or seller passes away before returning the item\/payment in a&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[17],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22751"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22751"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22751\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":23239,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22751\/revisions\/23239"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22751"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22751"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22751"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}