{"id":7867,"date":"2014-11-01T17:56:10","date_gmt":"2014-11-01T17:56:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/?p=7867"},"modified":"2014-11-01T17:56:10","modified_gmt":"2014-11-01T17:56:10","slug":"does-one-have-to-say-talaq-three-times-after-a-court-divorce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/does-one-have-to-say-talaq-three-times-after-a-court-divorce\/","title":{"rendered":"Does one have to say Talaq three times after a court divorce"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-size: 13px; text-align: right;\">\n\t<span style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><strong>Fatwa ID: 01708<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 13px;\">\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\"><strong>Answered by&nbsp;<\/strong>Mufti Mohammed Tosir Miah<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 13px;\">\n\t<span style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Question:<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">After court divorce is it compulsory to say talaq 3 times?<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<pre style=\"font-size: 13px;\">\r\n&nbsp;<strong style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 1.6em;\">Answer:<\/strong><\/pre>\n<p style=\"font-size: 13px;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Bismillah.jpg\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Bismillah\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6518 alignnone\" height=\"50\" src=\"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Bismillah.jpg\" title=\"\" width=\"267\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\"><strong><u>Decree Nisi and Decree Absolute. <\/u><\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">In Britain divorce proceeding are carried out as follows:<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The petitioner (man or woman) writes to the court giving reasons for wanting to separate.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The judge issues a letter titled &lsquo;Divorce Petition) to the opposite part (respondent), putting forward any questions that need to be answered.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">If the respondent acknowledges the letter and signs it without answering the question.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Then the judge processes the case according to the law, and finding sufficient causes, will write that the marriage has broken down irrevocably unless sufficient cause is shown to the court within six weeks and that there is no opposition between the parties.&nbsp; This is termed &lsquo;Decree Nisi&rsquo;.&nbsp; If no one opposes this decree within this period, then the petitioner has to apply for the final decree and the judge issues a final and absolute divorce, which is termed &lsquo;Decree Absolute&rsquo;.&nbsp; According to the law of the country, both are separate and their marriage is completely annulled.&nbsp; They are now free to marry someone else.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Let us look at the issues in light of the sacred law:<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">If it is the case, where the man files a petition for divorce in the county court and demands separation, then in this, as the man has the right to divorce, he can use it or make someone else his representative.&nbsp; So, it is as if he has made the judge his representative to divorce his wife.&nbsp; It is not necessary that the representative be a Muslim, as is the case in the court of this country.&nbsp; The divorce will take place issued by the judge and the woman can marry someone else after completing the waiting period (Iddah).&nbsp; She does not need to take an Islamic divorce from her husband.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">If it is the case where the woman files a petition for divorce and when the court case begin proceedings, the man gives permission to the judge to proceed in clear terms, then in this case also the divorce will take place.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The third issue is, if the man goes to his solicitors after having received the divorce petition to give a reply.&nbsp; Generally, the solicitor advises clients of no benefit in defending the case except delay with financial implications, with the court issuing the divorce in any case.&nbsp; Because of this, the solicitor writes that both husband and wife will separate or the husband signs and sends the divorce petition to the county court, willingly.&nbsp; Therefore, in this case also the divorce will take place because of the willingness of the husband.&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The fourth issue is, if the woman files for a divorce and the judge sends the divorce petition to the husband, but the husband defends his case and is not willing to divorce her, but despite this the judge issues a divorce.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The fifth issue is, the husband acknowledges and accepts his mistake and is willing to fulfil her rights, but the judge issues a divorce.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The sixth issue is, the man receives the divorce petition but does not proceed with the case nor does he do anything to show his willingness to divorce her, but the judge issues a divorce.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<li>\n\t\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The seventh issue is, if the woman files for divorce and the judge sends the divorce petition to the husband, but he refuses to defend his case and is not willing to divorce her, despite this the judge issues a divorce.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">In the above four cases, according to Islamic law the husband and wife are still considered marred. The woman cannot marry another man. If she does, the marriage will be void and both will be considered living in sin. (Extracted from Asr Hadhir Ke Pechida Masaail p.25 &ndash; p.31 v.2)<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">According to the Shariah, an Islamic divorce would not occur at the granting of a decree nisi. However, from the date the decree absolute is granted, an Islamic divorce will occur and the woman&rsquo;s iddat will also start.&nbsp; (Asr Hadhir Ke Pechida Masaail p.31 v.2)<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The conclusion we can come to is that if you do not proceed with the decree absolute your nikah and marriage is still intact as a decree nisi does not effect a divorce. However, if you proceeded if a decree absolute then an Islamic divorce will occur.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Now the question is what type of divorce will occur?<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The words which effect divorce are of two types:<\/p>\n<p>\t1) Clear and plain words (sareeh)<\/p>\n<p>\t2) Ambiguous and allusive words (kinaya)<\/p>\n<p>\tSareeh means expressly pronouncing the word divorce or words derived from it, such as: &ldquo;I divorce you&rdquo; or &ldquo;you are divorced&rdquo; etc&#8230; Clear and plain words effect divorce whether one intends divorce by them or not. (Hidayah&nbsp; p.359 v.2 &amp; Fatawa Hindiyyah p.354 v.1)<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Kinaya means using words that are not exclusively prescribed for issuing divorce, but alludes and hints to it. Kinaya words do not effect divorce unless one intends divorce by them or it is determined by the circumstance one is in. (Hidayah p.373 v.2 &amp; Fatawa Hindiyyah p.374 v.1)<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The kinaya words effect a talaq bain (irrevocable divorce) when one intends divorce by them. (Hidayah p.374 v.2)<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">The answer to the earlier question depends on what kind of words the judge uses to dissolve the marriage. If he uses words such as &ldquo;I have thereby granted a divorce etc&hellip;&rdquo; then one talaq rajee will occur. Thus, after the passing of the wife&rsquo;s iddat (three menstruation cycle) the marriage will break, however, you can get back together again by redoing the marriage in the presence of two male witnesses or one male and two female witnesses. Also a new dowry will have to be set. &nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">If the judge uses the words &ldquo;separation&rdquo; or &ldquo;dissolve&rdquo; etc&#8230;. then a talaq bain will occur straightaway and the nikah will break. You can redo the marriage within her iddat or afterwards in the presence of two male witnesses or one male and two female witnesses. Also a new dowry will have to be set. &nbsp;(Fatawa Hindiyyah p.472 v.1)<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Regarding your question, we can derive from the aforementioned information that a court divorce will terminate the marriage. It may be after three menstruation cycles or straightaway, therefore, it is not necessary for the husband to give his wife three talaqs thereafter.<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Only Allah Knows Best<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Mohammed Tosir Miah<\/span><\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"color:#000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Darul Ifta Birmingham<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fatwa ID: 01708 Answered by&nbsp;Mufti Mohammed Tosir Miah Question: After court divorce is it compulsory to say talaq 3 times? &nbsp;Answer: Decree Nisi and Decree&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7867"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7867"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7867\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7867"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7867"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7867"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}