{"id":18580,"date":"2020-11-30T20:40:25","date_gmt":"2020-11-30T20:40:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/?p=18580"},"modified":"2020-11-30T20:40:25","modified_gmt":"2020-11-30T20:40:25","slug":"is-my-hajj-valid-if-a-proxy-did-the-rami-on-the-second-and-third-day","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/is-my-hajj-valid-if-a-proxy-did-the-rami-on-the-second-and-third-day\/","title":{"rendered":"Is My Hajj Valid if a Proxy Did the Rami on the Second and Third Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"has-text-align-right\" style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Fatwa ID: 04612<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\" style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><strong>Answered by: Mufti Eunus Ali<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><strong><u>Question<\/u><\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Assalamu Alaikum.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">I made Hajj in 2010, but I have been wondering if I sufficiently completed the rituals for it to be considered valid. The key point in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">question is that I only pelted the Jamarat in Mina on the first day <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">after Muzdalifah. I was very tired from the walk from Muzdalifah to Mina <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">and then to Mecca. There was a person hired by our group who led me and <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">others through the crowd on that first day, but he said we were on our <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">own the next day as he would not be leading. In hindsight, I should have <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">tipped him (given him extra money) for his help the first day. The next <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">morning, the director of the group asked if any wanted to take the bus <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">back to Makkah and if so, he should ask a person to stone the pillars <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">for him. I regret that I accepted this offer as I did not realize the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">significance of actually doing the pelting oneself. Hence, someone <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">supposedly did the ramy on my behalf on the second day and no one did on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">the\u00a0third.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">This fall I wanted to make Hajj al-Badal for a friend&#8217;s father, but I <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">was thinking that my previous hajj was deficient. If it was deficient, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">then I wondered if my intention for Hajj al-Badal would not be realized <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">and the hajj would count instead for my own. Regardless, I intend to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">make hajj this fall, inshaa Allah, but the questions I have are:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">1) Was my hajj in 2010 valid since I had a proxy stone for me on the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">second day and no one stoned on the third day?\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">2) Can I offer hajj al-Badal for a friend&#8217;s aged, sick and incapable <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">father or deceased mother? <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">3) Would a hajj this fall count for myself or for the person I intended <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">to make hajj al-Badal for? <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">4) If Hajj al Badal would be valid for me to make this year would the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">person be required to pay the full cost of hajj, or is this something I <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">can\u00a0offer\u00a0as\u00a0sadaqah?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 280px; text-align: left;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><strong><u>In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful<\/u><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><strong><u>Answer:<\/u><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">It will only be permissible for one to appoint a substitute for the pelting of the Jamarat when the individual is incapable of doing so themselves due to serious illness.<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Tiredness does not qualify as a valid reason for a substitute to be appointed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Furthermore, you have stated that the pelting on the third day was also missed. As compensation for both these, it will be necessary to offer 1 dam (sacrifice of a sheep) to make up for the shortcomings.<a href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">By completing the sacrifice the Hajj will be complete and will not have to be repeated.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased to be both of them) said, &#8220;The wife of Sinan bin Salamah Al-Juhani ordered that the question be put to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon Him) about her mother who had died and had not performed Hajj; would it be good enough if she were to perform Hajj on behalf of her mother? He said: &#8216;Yes. If her mother owed a debt and she paid it off, would that not be good enough? Let her perform Hajj on behalf of her mother.&#8221;&#8217;<a href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">From the above-mentioned hadith and similar narrations, it is established that it is <i>permissible for<\/i>\u00a0a person to perform Hajj on behalf of the deceased. However, it will be <em>makruh,<\/em> if the person who will be performing the Hajj on behalf of the deceased has not performed their own Hajj.<a href=\"#_ftn4\" name=\"_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">It will be considered for the person it is intended for as mentioned above.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">It is not necessary for the person to fund the full cost rather this is an issue that will need to be mutually agreed upon by both parties.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Only Allah knows best<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Written by Mufti Eunus Ali<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Checked and approved by Mufti Mohammed Tosir Miah<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\">Darul Ifta Birmingham<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> Al Fatawa Al Hindiyyah, Volume 1, Page 261, Darul Kutubul Ilmiyyah<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\">[2]<\/a>Al Fatawa Al Hindiyyah, Volume 1, Page 272, Darul Kutubul Ilmiyyah &amp; Al Lubab Fi Sharhil Kitab, Page 205,\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Al-Maktabatul Umariyyah<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref3\" name=\"_ftn3\">[3]<\/a>Sunan An-Nasa\u2019i: 2633\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif;\"><a href=\"#_ftnref4\" name=\"_ftn4\">[4]<\/a>Awjazul Masalik, Volume 7, Page 216-217, Darul Qalam &amp; Al-Bada\u2019i As-Sana\u2019i, Volume 3, Page 274 and 291, Darul Kutubil Ilmiyyah<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fatwa ID: 04612 Answered by: Mufti Eunus Ali &nbsp; Question: &nbsp; Assalamu Alaikum.\u00a0I made Hajj in 2010, but I have been wondering if I sufficiently&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[8],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18580"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18580"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18580\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18642,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18580\/revisions\/18642"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}