{"id":8664,"date":"2016-11-16T18:08:38","date_gmt":"2016-11-16T18:08:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/?p=8664"},"modified":"2021-02-15T13:35:22","modified_gmt":"2021-02-15T13:35:22","slug":"is-talaq-baain-over-the-phone-valid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/is-talaq-baain-over-the-phone-valid\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Talaq Baain over the phone valid"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\"><strong>Fatwa ID: 02006<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\"><strong>Answered by\u00a0Mufti Mohammed Tosir Miah<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\"><strong>Question:<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">As salam alikum , before I ask my question, let me try and explain you the course of events.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">1- Brother got married 6 months ago and his wife could not stay together because of her internship.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">2- in last six month they stayed together just for 39 days , in which they have not got physical (strange in a marriage).<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">3- Temperaments of brother and his wife did not match up, also we found out she defy my brother on each and every account. she actually does not wish to stay with my brother in marriage.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">4- She left his house without my brother\u2019s consent to her mothers house.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">5- Upon throwing the light on the course of events my family asked to meet their family and urged to meet and solve this problem face to face, on which they did not turn up. Further more her father asked for final word\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">6- my brother than with the intention not to keep her in his marriage told talaq e bain over phone off which she heard very clearly.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">7- Brother than sent over the talaqnaama to her with the cheque of Mehar and expenses for her iddat period which they did not deliberately received .<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">Now my question is\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">1- is this talaq complete.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">2- is it valid to give away talaq over phone when the girl heard it clearly\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">3- is it that brother have to complete talaq by saying it twice again to her\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\">4- if in case brothers wife denies that she did not hear anything , still the talaq is valid .?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14px;\"><span style=\"font-family: verdana,geneva,sans-serif;\"><strong>Answer:<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Bismillah.jpg\" target=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" title=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/Bismillah.jpg\" alt=\"Bismillah\" width=\"267\" height=\"50\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">The words which effect divorce are of two types:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">1) Clear and plain words (sareeh)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">2) Ambiguous and allusive words (kinaya)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Sareeh means expressly pronouncing the word divorce or words derived from it, such as: \u201cI divorce you\u201d or \u201cyou are divorced\u201d etc. Clear and plain words effect divorce whether one intends divorce by them or not. (Hidayah, V2, P359, Raddul Muhtaar, V2, P465, Fatawa Hindiyah, V1, P354)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Kinaya means using words that are not exclusively prescribed for issuing divorce, but alludes and hints to it. Kinaya words do not effect divorce unless one intends divorce by them or it is determined by the circumstance one is in. (Hidayah, V2, P373, Raddul Muhtaar, V2, P501, Fatawa Hindiyah, V1, P374)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">The kinaya words effect talaaq\u00a0 bain when one intends divorce by them. (Hidayah, V2, P374, Raddul Muhtaar, V2, P507)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">It is mentioned in Durrul Mukhtar:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">\u00a0\u201cThe main part (rukn) of divorce is the specific statement.\u201d (Raddul Muhtar p.426 v.4)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Furthermore, one of the conditions for talaq to occur is that the person issuing the talaq must be sane and mature.\u00a0 Imam Kasani (RA) has said \u201cAnd amongst the conditions of talaq is that he be sane, literally and figuratively.\u00a0 The talaq of an insane person is not effected, nor that of an immature boy, who is not of an understanding age.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 (Badaius Sanai p.179 v.4)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Keeping the aforementioned information in mind we can conclude that giving a talaq over the phone, whether rajee or baain will occur.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Answer 3<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">It is sufficient just to give this one talaq baain. By giving one talaq baain the marriage will be terminated straight away.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Answer 4<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">When a husband gave his wife a talaq then the talaq will occur. It is not necessary for your wife to know for talaq to occur. Similarly, it is not necessary for talaq to be given in her presence for it to occur. (Aapke Masail p.223 v.5)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Only Allah Knows Best<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Mohammed Tosir Miah<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;\">Darul Ifta Birmingham<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fatwa ID: 02006 Answered by\u00a0Mufti Mohammed Tosir Miah Question: As salam alikum , before I ask my question, let me try and explain you the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8664"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8664"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8664\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19826,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8664\/revisions\/19826"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8664"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8664"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/daruliftabirmingham.co.uk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8664"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}